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I also posted this on FB, if you're interested in reading the comments there.

As you may be able to tell from some of my recent postings, I’ve been thinking a lot about representation in the media lately.
If you are a person of color, or LGBT, you may want to skip this as yet another “white people trying to figure out inclusivity” post. I welcome your comments and perspective and will listen hard to anything you choose to say, but I want to be clear that I don’t expect you to educate me here, unless you feel like it.

Similarly, I ask white men, in particular, to please listen more than you talk, here. Your perspective is welcome, but most of you lack the experience of not seeing yourself unrepresented, or represented only very narrowly.
With those notes out the way, here’s the thing...there has been a lot of discussion lately about various ways of expanding representation in order to make more opportunities for non-white, non-cismale, non-heteronormative actors; to increase the visibility of people in those categories in order to recognize the presence in our society of those they represent; and to address the historic and continuing imbalance of power and opportunity.

There are two basic ways of doing this. One is to examine every role, asking “is there a reason this character is an apparently straight, white, cisgendered man?” And then, whenever the answer is “No, not especially,” to make the effort to change that character and cast someone in another category. This is “colorblind” casting and it addresses the third goal, but usually without addressing the lack of stories about people in under-represented categories. The characters aren’t non-white, etc.--only the actors are--and this is another variation on invisibility.

The other way to do this is to recruit actors from the community represented by the character. So African-American characters are played by African-American actors, Asians by Asians, trans by trans, deaf by deaf, etc. This is great, I love this, we should do this a lot more. It should become the norm.

But--and I here’s where my thinking gets sticky--what decisions are fair game for criticism? I want to make clear that’s what I’m talking about: not censorship, not legislation, just criticism and changing norms. I also recognize that these are issues that we’ve really only begun to address, as a society, and that only on a limited basis as yet. If things were different, things would be different and it’s not up to us to decide on a global policy, but to encourage directors, casting agents, and audiences to think about their choices more deeply, and to be willing to engage with the problematic aspects, even of creations that we love. But how far are we willing to go in identifying these choices as problematic?

Jason points out that the fallacy of “so gay actors shouldn’t play straight roles” has been around as long as we’ve been talking about this--and there the answer is to look at power differentials. Openly LGBT actors have often been stuck in the rare gay roles (though that’s changing, a little) and the representation is still woefully inadequate. I think a similar question is being asked about trans folk playing roles that are not explicitly trans and I think the answer is similar--they should be considered for every role open to actors of their gender and to any role for which they can get a director to consider them, regardless of gender, and their trans identity should be just as much of an issue in that role as they, and the director, choose to make it.

But how deep should this go, and what room are we leaving for, well, acting? Elizabeth Olsen plays the Scarlet Witch in the Marvel movies with a charming vaguely Eastern European accent. Eastern Europeans with accents are definitely under-represented in the movies, and where they get roles, they’re usually villains--which the Scarlet Witch was in Age of Ultron. Would casting an Eastern European actor in that role have been stereotyping them as villains? Similarly--and I know there was some discussion of this when Selma came out--is it fine for the role of Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. to be played by a British man of Nigerian descent, rather than an African-American actor? Are the answers different for fantastical or historical characters than for characters in mimetic fiction? How about rape survivors? Is that information that actors should list on their resumes and directors should take into account when casting? Are the only appropriate acting challenges those of circumstance, rather than identity? If directors are going to cast big name white cisgendered actors, should they limit themselves to stories of white cisgendered characters and leave the stories of other communities to indie film?

I don’t know the answers. As a director in community theatre, my options are somewhat limited by our audition pool. We continue to recruit a wider pool of actors and to encourage directors to cast diversely, but unless we’re doing original scripts (where I notably screwed this up in the past, by the way) we don’t really have the option to tailor the roles to the actors’ identities. But I am thinking about it, on scales ranging from my own work, to blockbuster cinema. And I wonder what you think, what questions you have, what solutions you suggest, either in case-by-case situations, or more global norms. How do we think about this?

Date: 2016-05-27 05:44 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] desireearmfeldt
And there's the question of visible identity traits vs invisible ones.

For example, I've thought about gender and ethnicity for casting Stop Kiss (and hm, now I realize what I forgot to do when I was making audition materials was think about what if anything to say about *actor* attributes when I was specifying character genders and not specifying their ethnicities...), but it did not occur to ask actors their sexual orientation so that I could cast the bi characters with bi actors and the (presumed) straight ones with straight actors (or...not, if we're only worried about matching for the less-powerful group). Usually we tend to draw a line between the visible and the invisible -- but of course, that's actually a continuum rather than a binary.

Heh, and this makes me realize another unquestioned-by-me bit of common practice: we don't usually *ask* the actors about their identifying characteristics, with the possible exception of gender. (I feel like I may have been asked that on audition forms, though I can't say for sure, and T@F doesn't usually ask.) You're asked what roles you want to try out for, but the director is free to have you read for/consider you for whatever roles they arbitrarily decide, and that's based on what buckets the director *visually* decides you go in (look, a young woman, didn't specify a role, have her read for Cecily -- but no one *told* me she was a young woman, I just decided that from her name and appearance and possibly the other roles on her resume, that being the set of data available to me).

At the broadway level...

Date: 2016-05-27 05:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rmd.livejournal.com
I do wonder if the casting choices in "Hamilton" will lead to casting choice changes going forward at the professional level.

Re: At the broadway level...

Date: 2016-05-27 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lillibet.livejournal.com
Here's hoping! I saw that they've just announced the first non-white Christine in Phantom.

Date: 2016-05-27 05:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dpolicar
This is something much on my mind right now, having just recently cast a show with a bunch of white actors without making any real effort to do otherwise. (I don't defend this; it's merely what I did.)

*listening*
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From: [personal profile] desireearmfeldt

Various questions in play:

1) are roles available for characters of XMinority?
2) do actors who are X get cast in X roles?
2b) are X roles portrayed by X actors?
3) do X actors get cast in non-X roles?
4) when (if ever) is it appropriate for X roles to be played by non-X actors?
4b) is the answer different/special case when X represents a nunerical majority of acrors, but minirity of roles (e.g. ciswomen)?

Date: 2016-05-30 03:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] labingi.livejournal.com
I love the idea of examining the role and asking explicitly if there's any reason it should be a white, cis-gendered, straight man and adjusting accordingly.

One thing I'm grappling with in Portland is the predominance of white people numerically, and since I'm white, that tends to be social group too for a variety of fascinating cultural reasons. Most recently this came up in pre-production for a web show spec trailer, in which a Native American character ended up being cast with a white woman, with another white woman as possible understudy (and a third white woman in consideration after that). And it's simply because we're a tiny production with no money and few connections grasping after anyone we can find who can fill a role for a day--and they're white people. It's the path of least resistance.

I think in a case like this, the best we can do is try to be mindful: to at least be aware that we're doing it, and not do it when we feasibly have a choice. And also, serious film productions take money and connections in the film community, which is why I'll be going back to school for an AAS in video production starting this fall. I do want to do my part for increasingly representation.

Date: 2016-06-03 11:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] melted-snowball.livejournal.com
One suggestion I do have comes from watching the theatre company I support, Acting Up Stage. They're a musical theatre company (which is to say, very dominated by gay white men) in the midst of one of the most multi-cultural cities in the world, and they want to do shows that matter in that environment.

So they've done a lot of partnering with an excellent theatre company of mostly black performers, Obsidian Theatre, on several shows: "Parade", "Caroline, or Change", and "Once on this Island", I think. (Also maybe "The Wild Party"?)

I believe this has helped. When they do shows with largely black casts, the actors they're working with don't feel tokenized: they work with each other all the time. And when they do shows with a couple of black actors, they're often the ones who got to know Acting Up via those other shows.

There's more complexity (as an example, I didn't like "Once on this Island", which is an allegory for Haiti, in part because I found the accents hard and the music boring, which is kind of, "white guy doesn't like musical not specifically meant for him, film at 11"), but I think that kind of partnership has made for better theatre and also probably a better theatre company.

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